Friday, February 09, 2007

John Edwards Chastises The Bigots on His Staff

Oh wow didn't see this one coming: John Edwards merely chastises instead of firing the two women on his staff who openly blasphemed the Christian God. What do you think he would have done if they had openly spoke evil of homosexuals? Blacks? Jews? Muslims? Anyone other than Christians?

"They have both assured me that it was never their intention to malign anyone's faith, and I take them at their word,"
Ahuh...From the women:
I suspect Pope Ratz will give into the urge eventually to come out and say there’s no limbo and unbaptized babies go straight to hell. He can’t help it; he’s just a dictator like that. Hey, fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly

One thing I vow here and now—you [BEEP!] who want to ban birth control will never sleep. I will [BEEP!] without making children day in and out and you will know it and you won’t be able to stop it. Toss and turn, you mean, jealous [BEEP!]. I’m not going to be “punished” with babies. Which makes all your efforts a failure. Some non-procreating women escaped. So give up now. You’ll never catch all of us. Give up now.
Those are among the nicest things they've ever said about Catholics or about anything in general. Click the link on my previous post if you really want to see some terrible words against the Church. Not only are they blasphemous but they are horribly misrepresenting Catholic dogma.

The teaching they keep asserting is Catholic is not. The Church does not teach that aborted babies go straight to hell. It has been affirmed however, on multiple occasions that baptism is a requirement of the faith regardless of age. No one will enter heaven without being baptized. So .... get baptized and baptize your children.


Minor Ripper said...

Edwards is shedding the softie,breck girl image's video proof:

Anonymous said...

When you say, "No one will ever enter heaven without being baptized", do you mean that this is the teaching of the Catholic church?

How does that fit with CCC #847, which indicates that those achieving salvation may include some of those who are not baptized?

I appreciate the thrust of your post; don't get me wrong. Just some clarification would be helpful.

TheGodFearinFiddler said...

David, thanks for bringing that up. Thats a beautiful teaching of the Church:

"Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation"

I think the salvation of aborted infants falls under this law too. Our God is just.

As for the requirement of baptism:

1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation

1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

And finally, about unbaptized infants:

1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.

Thanks for bringing that up.

TheGodFearinFiddler said...

The Catechism doesnt really specify how those outside the Church can receive salvation, it just affirms that there is a possibility.

Likewise, those who are not baptized have the possibility to be saved if it was due to ignorance that they remained unbaptized.

Johnny Vino said...

I also think we get naturally confused because we live IN time. In the logic or our perceptive experience, there has to be a before and an after - therefore if someone dies BEFORE a tangibly experienced baptism, we tend to view that from a temporal perspective and limit their access to Grace.

Quantum physics tells us our human perception of time is an illusion. Roger Penrose wrote a book called "The Emperor's New Mind" where he argues that the experienced passage of time is just a byproduct of a cascading replication of the "consciousness" phenomona in our brains.

That being said, the only moment in anyone's life that matters is the moment we face Christ. Everyone is introduced to that moment in a different way. Some over 80 years with the Grace/responsibility of a Christian journey, some 15 years as a Muslim in Egypt, some only 3 months in-utero and so on...

But when we face Christ, we will know how we knew Him in our lives, and when we chose Him vs. when we rejected Him. Our age, intelligence, and circumstance will be burned away.

TheGodFearinFiddler said...

Johnny - great points and nicely said. Thanks for dropping by.