Tuesday, August 28, 2007

An OPC Member Became Catholic BC of Federal Vision

H/T Chad Is Not Enough - Check out Homesick No More and the story of how the Federal Vision movement drove another young man from the very near truths of reformed Christianity to the full truth of the Catholic Church. Be sure to give him a warm welcome.


Thos said...

Thanks for sharing this link, GFF. Very good read.

Joe said...

"..very near truths.."

Just how near is a Reformed believer to salvation?

Question: Do you believe that there are any non-Catholics who are saved, even if they die without submitting to Rome?


TheGodFearinFiddler said...

Joe - Im beginning to wonder if you intentionally mis-read and or mis-interpret everything I say or what...

I'll let you figure this one out - better yet, why don't you read official Catholic documents on the subject. The Catechism would be a great place for you to start.

Don't ask me what Catholic teaching is - ask the Church.

Joe said...

Well, I found this. From Council of Florence, 1442. From this, I gather that you MUST believe that in order to be saved, you must become a Roman Catholic.

Do you agree with this, that no one is saved outside Roman Catholicism?

"“The Holy Roman Church…firmly believes, professes and preaches that ‘no one remaining outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans’, but also Jews, heretics or schismatics, can be-come partakers of eternal life; but they will go to the ‘eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels’ (Mt. 25:41), unless before the end of their life they are received into it [the Catho-lic Church]. For union with the body of the Church is of so great importance that the sacra-ments of the Church are helpful to salvation only for those remaining in it…and no one can be saved, no matter how much alms he has given, even if he sheds his blood for the name of Christ, unless he remains in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”24"

TheGodFearinFiddler said...

Joe - great quote thanks. Since we're getting off topic I posted a new thread here.

I was simply talking about what was true before not what was exclusively salvific. At any rate, its a good question to ask of a Catholic - I'd do the same if I were in your shoes.