Saturday, March 08, 2008

Octavius on Intelligent Design

No this isn't the satirical Octavius of Hierapolis I invented some time ago. This is a real Octavius - namely the companion of Minucius Felix. I found these quotes to be interesting, especially given that there was no evolutionary theory to be arguing against at the time - merely atheism.

Octavius says:

There is no member in man which is not calculated both for the sake of necessity and of ornament;
And later:
Britain is deficient in sunshine, but it is refreshed by the warmth of the sea that flows around it. The river Nile tempers the dryness of Egypt; the Euphrates cultivates Mesopotamia; the river Indus makes up for the want of rains, and is said both to sow and to water the East. Now if, on entering any house, you should behold everything refined, well arranged, and adorned, assuredly you would believe that a master presided over it, and that he himself was much better than all those excellent things. So in this house of the world, when you look upon the heaven and the earth, its providence, its ordering, its law, believe that there is a Lord and Parent of the universe far more glorious than the stars themselves, and the parts of the whole world.
Of course, this should only ring familiar to Christians in light of Romans 1:20:
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Just passing it along for what it's worth.


Anonymous said...

Why do you guys 'fear' God? Is that the only reason you supposedly behave well, becasue you are afraid God will punish you? I guess Machiavelli was right, as a Prince just make people fear you and the chumps will do whatever you want.

Tim A. Troutman said...

We fear God as a child ought to fear their father not as a slave fears a tyrant.

Any other questions?