Friday, April 11, 2008

Contraception... Surprise: its First Mention Wasn't Humanae Vitae

From the early third century St. Hippolytus writes:

Whence women, reputed believers, began to resort to drugs for producing sterility, and to gird themselves round, so to expel what was being conceived on account of their not wishing to have a child either by a slave or by any paltry fellow, for the sake of their family and excessive wealth. Behold, into how great impiety that lawless one has proceeded, by inculcating adultery and murder at the same time! And withal, after such audacious acts, they, lost to all shame, attempt to call themselves a Catholic Church!
Of course, in the greater context, Hippolytus is falsely accusing Pope Callistus I of being too lenient on these and other sins. I say - Hippolytus may have been an anti-pope but at least he had the spine to confront this evil head on which is more than I can say of many priests these days.

8 comments:

Tim A. Troutman said...

Anonymous - your ad homimen attacks are not appreciated but well expected from an anti-Catholic. I'll be happy to dialogue with you but you need to calm down first. Thanks.

Thos said...

Murder no less! It's interesting that he appreciated this given that he only had what is now often characterized as a primitive understanding of procreative biology. He wasn't enlightened, I guess some would say. But his lights were on in this regard.

Peace,
Thos.

George Weis said...

Tim,
It is good to read your thoughts. I am not a RC as you know, but I enjoy other perspectives weather I agree or disagree! I am in no way shape or form anti-Catholic. By the way, I actually consider myself Catholic... just not Roman. Hippolytus anti-pope, I find that funny :D That term didn't come into being until Gregory I. Man, can you please explain to me how you can buy the universal church authority of the Roman Bishop the whole way back to the first century?
I mean even Nicea required all bishops to throw in their thoughts, and ultimately, needed a majority rule.

Hey man, when did you convert? Seems like you love this stuff! I Thoroughly enjoy Church history. At any rate, I will say my wife and I are 100% opposed to all forms of birth control. We believe that the word "control" begs issue with God. That is a major issue with everyone (all christians included) today... we all want control of our lives, and we don't see things the way God sees them. For instance, children are a blessing, not a burden!

Blessings to you,
-george-

Thos said...

George,

Good to hear another Protestant opposed to Birth Control. Dare I *hope* that the future will see a return to this moral worldview by Christians???

Peace in Christ,
Thos.

Tim A. Troutman said...

George, I anticipate us having a lot of fruitful discussion in the future (that is if I keep my cool and don't run you off). I mean of course, fruitful and helpful for both of us.

I'm going to respond to your question - it's a good one but I don't have time presently. I should respond by tonight. Peace.

George Weis said...

Tim, You will never run me out! HAHA! Patience is one thing the Lord has worked into me (although I should be careful to never say that I am completely patient lest I should fall!) So at any rate, I love the discussion, and yes I hope to see it build fruit into our lives. Glad to hear that you still love your protestant (what a horrible word) family still! My in Laws are RCs and I love them very much. More than all of the history and theological learning, I pray that you grow in the Grace of Our Lord. Are you gonna make a pilgrimage to see Benedict? I was actually thinking of going, just out of curiosity. Also, I hope your family still treats you with dignity!

In Him who is able to keep us from stumbling,
-george-

Tim A. Troutman said...

Here's my response.

George Weis said...

Thos,
Yeah brother, glad you feel the same!

Blessings to you!

-george-